Dear Christian, No, I Don’t Hate You. Here is What I do Hate.

While the article is self-explanatory, I want to comment on two things. One, as Earthians slowly abandon their Iron Age patriarchal religions, particularly in the so-called “West,” there is a new and very organized Religion rising to take their place: Mythological Science. Beware of that new god as he is even more dangerous than the previous one. The second thing I will say is, when you read “Christianity” in the article, think “All Organized Religions” for they all have the same root cause and life under any of those religions is equally oppressive, particularly to women and children.

ValerieTarico.com

two-women-talkingOn the important difference between hating bad ideas and hating people.

As a former Evangelical Christian, I write critically—even harshly—about biblical Christianity, the kind that treats the Bible as if it were the literally-perfect word of God. I also write harshly about the Catholic hierarchy—the authoritarian institution that compiled the Bible 1500 years ago and still today seeks to impose derivative beliefs and rules on society at large. In response, I often receive comments and messages from Christians who say I must hate them, which isn’t true.

Other nontheists and anti-theists get similarly accused. Recently, two well-known critics of Islam, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Maajid Nawaz, had their names put on a “Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists.” Ali is a former Muslim and Nawaz a moderate believer, and their appearance on the list was particularly frightening because such lists, not infrequently, get folks like them killed.

Bad Ideas ≠…

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7 thoughts on “Dear Christian, No, I Don’t Hate You. Here is What I do Hate.

  1. We come from dreams ~

    I would urge everyone following Sha’Tara’s blog to read Dr. Tarico’s post in its entirety. As a former fundamentalist Christian Sunday School teacher, I find that her criticisms of the religion are just, accurate and spot-on; and her numerous reminders to keep Believers separate from belief cannot be emphasized enough.

    There is a curious, and somewhat humorous comment in the late Lord Bertrand Russell’s “Why I am not a Christian” which is apropos here. In writing of Jesus’ angry condemnation of those who would not believe him*, Russell contrasted this with Socrates’ attitude some five hundred years previous (quoting from memory)” “If Socrates came across someone in the Athenian marketplace who wouldn’t take him seriously, he would shrug his shoulders and walk away.” If you think about this for more than fifteen seconds, something should become transparent, that IF what Jesus was saying was true, then the responsibility for what to do with what he taught now lay with his listeners. And IF someone chose not to buy Jesus’ message, then, IF it were true, it would be the listener who would be frying in Hell for eternity. Like this ~ Jesus preached (or is it ‘praught?’) > listener reacts. Jesus’ responsibility ends there – and so does the responsibility of any Christian (or Muslim) who is in the business (and it is, indeed, a VERY big business). “Okay, listened to ya; none for me, thanks!” If said prosyletizer goes on to warn of impending eternal damnation, well, hey, you made your point, go away.

    There is a similar senseless viciousness which Christians and Muslims are well-known for exhibiting. Here in the West, if you whack your finger with a hammer, or if someone cuts you off in traffic, very often the first thing many people will do is to utter a very loud “Jesus Christ!” ir response. This is “taking the name of the Lord in vain” (see yE olde Ten Commandments on that ‘un). In Islam if you say the name of Muhammad, you are supposed to do it like this: “the Prophet of God, Muhammad, peace be upon him!” If you mention “God,” it MUST be, ” ‘Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.” So……if an infidel like myself thinks that Muhammad is no different from Moses, Jesus, Mani, Buddha or Joseph Smith of the Mormons – ecstatic people who had visionary experiences and revelations, I have no reason to accord him any more or less respect than the others. After all, they all share one thing: they’re all DEAD! Same goes for YHWH, Jesus and ‘Allah; without proof of the claims made on their behalf, I have no reason to accord them any respect whatsoever. Yet it is in living memory (MINE!) that an American could get a stiff fine and some jail time for “taking the name of the Lord in vain.” (The “crime” was called, ‘public blasphemy.’). Muslims are reacting in similar ways to criticisms of the religion, the prophet and ‘Allah, only some of them are still acting like it’s the 14th century. The gangland-style execution by Muslim fanatics of French publisher Charlie Hebdo is only one case in point. (Hebdo had published cartoons of Myhammad that were “offensive” to some Muslims)

    In regard to the latter, we are reaching a tipping-point here in the West. Thanks to the perpetual war that USA has going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and other Muslim nations, Canada, the US and much of Europe are getting a huge number of Muslims who don’t want to live in war zones. Surprise surprise, many of these Muslims are bringing their 14th century religion with them, and, now? “Muslim threat!” “Muslim terrorists!” This gives people like Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton to further the divisive and war-mongering blood-lust that has characterized the US from the beginning. Yes, they’re doing bad shit; but ferthechrissakes, we are constrained at least somewhat by the fact that we live in a pseudo-democracy with values that, ideally, are humanitarian, and where every idea has its day in court. ISIS homophobes and misogynists will pitch queers from tall buildings, and execute-by-stoning 15 year old girls who wear makeup in Iran and Pakistan, but would find such murder a hell of a lot harder in the West (tho’ the brutal massacre of Charlie Hebdo ought be salutory). Will Islam have to enter the 21st century? That’s a total crap-shoot.

    *”Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you. And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.”

    Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew, 11:21-24

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    1. Sha'Tara Post author

      My dear Roy, thank you for taking the time to so clearly speak to the topic. I appreciate your effort and your well chosen words.

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  2. exoticnita54

    I also have and hold my own personal views on the subject..

    But…

    I also have to respect ✊ everyone else views seeing that all of our beliefs are due to how interpret religion.. and also how we were taught growing up…
    We all have our own opinions and reasons for believing what we do and don’t..
    So you are not entirely wrong with your choice and your comments and you views..

    Just try to respect ✊ how others define theirs..

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    1. Sha'Tara Post author

      Thank you for your comment, and for the courage to express your own views. That’s what it’s all about. I’ll say this to you, just to clarify, and as a (double) x-Christian. Everything is permissible (to me) as long as what is being said, and done “in the name of God/Allah/Whomever” is carefully scrutinized to ensure it does no harm to anyone else deliberately, but particularly (if I may say it this way) does no harm to innocence. Organized religions with their bloody and terrible historical record that continue to be pushed upon innocent people who do quite well as is without these religions, are an abomination. As Jesus pointed out to “the Jews” of his day, before “you” take the straw from your brother’s eye, remove the beam from your own. Of course this is speaking of judgment, the very reason I am now a complete unbeliever, not in the existence of god, for gods necessarily exist being endlessly created anew by religious people, but in religions having any salutary effect whatsoever upon man or his world.

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      1. exoticnita54

        You my love …. is entitled to your beliefs..
        and so is everyone else..
        For whatever choices they make accordingly…

        I’m so sure your reasons for your rigid opinions.. is very valid.. no question..

  3. polymath0

    I really enjoyed that post and also agree with it. The stamp of “Christianity” (and by your intro, “All organized religions”) has been used for so much harm. I also found the analogy to be a good one.

    I’m currently reading, “The History of God,” and just finished, “Fields of Blood,” two books that talk quite analytically about the major religions. I especially liked “Fields of Blood,” which discusses the links to violence historically. It also specifies many religions and their peaceful ways, but those tend not to be Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.

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    1. Sha'Tara Post author

      Judaism, Christianity and Islam (to list them chronologically) are really one single religion represented by a one-god patriarchy, morphed into different power branches, such groups then turning on each other in their struggle for hegemony. Perhaps because they are historically the latest to manifest and survive, having the most access to nascent technology and imperial expansion, they also express the most violence, particularly against anything representing the female principle in life.

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